Tiny Changes: A Celebration of Frightened Rabbit (and) ‘The Midnight Organ Fight’

Now maybe we can listen to the music again and work at getting  back to the way things used to be. As much as one can. 

James Porteous

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12 July 2019 | Staff | Drift

Before Frightened Rabbit founding member Scott Hutchison died, an idea was formed to celebrate 10 years of their seminal album ‘The Midnight Organ Fight’ by asking some of their talented buds in music to take a crack at their own versions of a song on the album. The whole album was recorded and was due to be released last summer, but then unfortunately Scott passed away last May.

The band have decided they still want to release the record as a testament to the album, and to Scott.

Frightened Rabbit are a Scottish indie rock band from Selkirk, formed in 2003. Initially a solo project for vocalist and guitarist Scott Hutchison, the line-up currently consists of Grant Hutchison (drums), Billy Kennedy (guitar, bass), Andy Monaghan (guitar, keyboards), and Simon Liddell (guitar). From 2004 the band were based in Glasgow.

Frightened Rabbit’s first studio album, Sing the Greys, was recorded as a duo by the Hutchison brothers, and released on independent label Hits the Fan in 2006. The band subsequently signed to Fat Cat Records, in 2007, and became a three-piece with the addition of guitarist Billy Kennedy for its second studio album, The Midnight Organ Fight (2008). The album was released to strongly positive reviews and extensive touring, with guitarist and keyboardist Andy Monaghan joining the band to flesh-out its live performances.

The band’s third studio album, ‘The Winter of Mixed Drinks’, was released in 2010, with former Make Model guitarist Gordon Skene joining the band for its accompanying tour. Frightened Rabbit signed to Atlantic Records later that year, and issued two EPs, ‘A Frightened Rabbit EP’ (2011) and ‘State Hospital’ (EP) (2012), before the release of its fourth studio album, ‘Pedestrian Verse’ in 2013. A critical and commercial success in the UK, the album peaked at number nine on the UK Albums Chart, with additional guitarist Simon Liddell joining the band on its subsequent tour.

Disillusioned from touring, Hutchison, Monaghan, and Liddell recorded a studio album without the band, entitled ‘Owl John’ (2014). Gordon Skene departed from the band in early 2014, and the band recorded ‘Painting of a Panic Attack’ the following year with producer Aaron Dessner (The National), in New York, with Liddell joining the band as a full contributing member.

Scott Hutchison died in May 2018 after going missing. In December 2018, the remaining members of the band played together for the first time since Hutchison’s death, at a charity gig in Glasgow.

Biffy Clyro – The Modern Leper
Oxford Collapse – I Feel Better
Fiskur – Good Arms vs Bad Arms
Right On Dynamite – Fast Blood
Josh Ritter – Old Old Fashioned

Wintersleep – The Twist
The Philistines Jr. – Bright Pink Bookmark
Craig Finn – Head Rolls Off
Katie Harkin & Sarah Silverman – My Backwards Walk

Benjamin Gibbard – Keep Yourself Warm
Inletts– Extrasupervery
Daughter – Poke
The Twilight Sad – Floating In The Forth
Aaron Dessner & Lauren Mayberry – Who’d You Kill Now?

Julien Baker – The Modern Leper
Piano Bar Fight – The Twist
Manchester Orchestra – My Backwards Walk


Splendour In The Grass - Day 3

Exclusive: Frightened Rabbit’s Grant Hutchison Shares Tiny Changes Album Notes

11 July 2019 | Steven Edelstone | Paste

On April 15, 2008, Frightened Rabbit released their now-indie classic The Midnight Organ Fight. It was an album that frontman and lyricist Scott Hutchison never thought the world would hear—“For some stupid reason, I didn’t even really consider that they’d ever be particularly public,” he once told me. He wrote without an audience in mind because, well, there wasn’t really one back then. The demos he’d been sending to Fat Cat Records since 2004 were raw and unfocused, and the band’s live shows were all over the place, loud as hell and not necessarily crowd-friendly.

But then something clicked. Peter Katis (The National, Interpol) signed on to produce the record, a follow-up to the Hutchison brothers’ self-produced Sing the Greys. The resulting album, The Midnight Organ Fight, benefitted from a word-of-mouth campaign that, against all odds, was overwhelmingly successful: The album made its way onto many end-of-the-year—and decade—lists as the band became stars both at home in Scotland and across the Atlantic in the U.S.

Scott Hutchison’s account of his on-again-off-again relationship, exceedingly vulnerable and devastatingly honest, won him heaps of praise as a lyricist. His words were the true catalyst to the band’s slow-cooked success. Fans around the world identified with tales of his never-ending breakup, from the split itself, to his inability to truly stay separated, all the way to his acceptance that it’s actually over. It’s impossible to listen to tracks like “My Backwards Walk,” “Good Arms vs. Bad Arms” or “Poke” and not see some of yourself in them.

A real community formed around these songs, both amongst fans and fellow musicians, the latter of which loved the band just as much as the former, perhaps even more so. Despite his morbid lyrics, Scott had a really bubbly personality, one that artists routinely flocked to for drinks or long chats about music.

So it makes sense that instead of releasing a 10-year anniversary box set with demos and b-sides, Frightened Rabbit decided to recruit their musician friends, many of whom date back to the band’s early days, to cover the songs. Scott helmed the project, which was supposed to be released shortly after the band’s anniversary shows early last year when they played the album. But tragically, Scott passed away about a month later, and the project was shelved for over a year.

That tribute album, titled Tiny Changes (from the line “While I’m alive, I’ll make tiny changes to Earth” on “Head Rolls Off”) will finally see the light of day Friday. In an extraordinary show of emotional strength, bandmates Grant Hutchison, Billy Kennedy, Andy Monaghan and Simon Liddell put the finishing touches on it all.

Today (July 11), a day before Tiny Changes hits the shelves of record stores and streaming platforms, Grant Hutchison is sharing the album notes he wrote for the record, detailing the band’s connection to every act on the tracklist, from Julien Baker to Biffy Clyro, Death Cab For Cutie’s Ben Gibbard to Sarah Silverman—many of whom performed at a show celebrating Scott’s life at Rough Trade in Brooklyn late last year. It’s a beautiful project, one that has gained new meaning since its inception, but also one that showcases the variety of musicians who were influenced by Frightened Rabbit over the course of its 15 years as a band.

1. Biffy Clyro: “The Modern Leper”

We first toured with Biffy back in 2008 and they have been such great supporters of the band ever since. It was really inspiring to see them get up every night as a three-piece rock band and make so much noise and make people so fucking happy. It definitely gave us inspiration and motivation to be as true to ourselves as we could but still aspire to be as big as we hoped we could be.


2. Oxford Collapse: “I Feel Better”

We were first introduced to this band through a mutual friend in New York. We toured with them from the very beginning in the US and they were some of the most fun tours we’ve ever done. The stories these guys have of being on the road are worthy of a book and I really hope someone writes it one day!

3. Fiskur: “Good Arms vs. Bad Arms”

Ross Clark is a very old friend of ours from Glasgow. He used to pester us constantly asking if he could support us so we finally gave in one night and we’ve been great pals ever since. We took Ross out on tour with us many times and every time we had such a great time. I wouldn’t recommend a day off in Blackpool if you’re touring the UK with these boys!

4. Right On Dynamite: “Fast Blood”

The very first time we visited New York we played The Mercury Lounge and this band supported us. We had them out on a North East US tour with us and we have traded many “good luck” animals over the years and are still close friends. They’re also all in The Woodpile video if you look closely. I think Molina ate three bags of Cheetos that day!

5. Josh Ritter: “Old Old Fashioned”

Scott was a fan of Josh’d from when he released Hello Starling in 2003. When we heard that he was a fan of FR we were blown away and getting the opportunity to tour with him was amazing. Scott played these shows solo and there was a real connection between him and Josh that you could also hear in some of their songwriting. The Girl In The War EP will forever be my favourite EP and holds a lot of memories of Scott.

6. Wintersleep: “The Twist”

We knew as soon as we met this band that we would be friends forever. Almost every day we would arrive in our dressing room and they were already in there drinking our beer and avoiding our raw veg platter. We love everything about these people and their music. Again we probably have a books worth of stories with these guys.

7. The Philistines Jr: “Bright Pink Bookmark”

Peter Katis is such a huge part of our careers and specifically The Midnight Organ Fight. We flew out to Connecticut with very little studio experience and instantly clicked with Peter on a personal and professional level. He pushed us at times and we pushed back harder which meant the swear words stayed on the record! We are still one of his wife’s favourite bands and that’s something we’ll be forever proud to say.

8. Craig Finn: “Head Rolls Off”

The Hold Steady were a huge influence on Scott and in particular Craig’s lyrical style. The openness and honesty they both used in their lyrics is what people loved about them and it meant the connection they had was strong and one based on respect and admiration. Also Craig Finn knows how to do a night out and this is important to Frightened Rabbit.

9. Harkin / Sarah Silverman: “My Backwards Walk”

Katie Harkin and her original band Sky Larkin have been friends of ours from the first time we toured in Leeds. We played The Brudenell together a bunch of times and toured together in 2010. Katie is an amazing musician and songwriter and a bloody lovely person too. It was nice to know that there were lovely folk in bands and not just arrogant pricks!

Sarah Silverman  tweeted a lyric from a FR song and that put Scott and her in touch when he was living in LA. I think they performed at the same night at some point and I imagine the fact they’re both funny as fuck meant they got on well! Scott always described Sarah’s part in this song as “The mustard in the macaroni.” You might not realise it’s there but if it wasn’t then you’d know something was missing.

10. Benjamin Gibbard: “Keep Yourself Warm”

Getting the offer to support Death Cab For Cutie in Europe in 2008 was probably our first “Fuck me” moment in the band. To hear that a band we all loved so much wanted us to join them was totally surreal and totally brilliant. Ben has become a good friend to us all over the years and more than just a musical peer. The shows we did with them gave us massive boost and are proof that support tours work if you get the mix right.

11. Inletts: “Extrasupervery”

Jeff Ziegler was our US tour manager from 2008 til 2010. There are too many in jokes for us to even consider writing anything personal here but he is one of our closest friends and one of the best producers in the world. He’s had a hand in The War On Drugs, Kurt Vile and any other Philly band of worth over the past few years and Scott recorded a demo of Footshooter with him in 2009. He is a legend. No other word fits.

12. Daughter: “Poke”

We met Daughter when we were on the same bill at Laneway Festival in 2014. The whole lineup that year was incredible but we really got on great with Daughter and ended up hanging out a lot. Their version of Poke on Tiny Changes is one of the most interesting interpretations of any of the songs on the album.


13. The Twilight Sad: “Floating in the Forth”

This band are simply the most important band in Frightened Rabbit’s history. They’ve done more for us as people and musically than anyone else and they are family to us. The tours with The Twilight Sad are the best we’ve ever done and they constantly made us want to write better songs and play better live. This song was always going to take on a new meaning after Scott’s death and nobody could have done a version close to this. We love them and always will.

14. Aaron Dessner & Lauren Mayberry: “Who’d You Kill Now?”

Aaron had such a huge impact on the sound of the last record and had a real deep understanding of what the band wanted to achieve with it. Working with him as producer on Painting Of A Panic Attack was a no brainer. We are all such massive fans of The National and knowing how much Aaron has to do with that sound meant it was an easy decision. His musical mind is like nobody else and it’s an incredible thing to see in action.

When we mentioned to Lauren that we had tried to contact the band about doing a cover and got no response she was pretty pissed off. So we all did our best to make it happen and here it is! Chvrches have continued the trend of Scottish bands moving away from whatever the current sound is and creating their own thing and that’s something we should all be proud of.

15. Julien Baker: “The Modern Leper”

Julien is a ridiculously good songwriter and a really inspirational person. We played a few shows together a couple of years ago and she was such a great opener for us. I love watching a crowd fall in love with someone who’s going on before us and it happened every night on that short run. Her version of Modern Leper is a favourite of a few of ours too.

16. Piano Bar Fight: “The Twist”

Obviously we had to have Andy and Si’s old band on here! It’s some direct lineage of Frightened Rabbit! I think it’s interesting to show Andy’s mind working on something different from FR even though it’s still a FR song. We played a few shows with PBF back in the day too and that’s how Scott and Grant got to know Andy a bit better. Billy already knew him through college and confirmed he was not a dick when we spoke about him joining FR.

17. Manchester Orchestra: “My Backwards Walk”

Scott and Andy Hull are very similar songwriters and when they recorded a song together for Record Store Day it was clear their voices really worked beautifully together. The initial contact came through the label but we have all been huge fans for quite a while so having Manchester Orchestra on this record made perfect sense.

Grant Hutchison On The Frightened Rabbit Tribute Compilation Tiny Changes

09 July 2019  | Stereogum 

In April of last year, Frightened Rabbit’s landmark, breakthrough sophomore album The Midnight Organ Fight turned 10. It was cause for celebration: This was the album on which the band came into its own, featuring some of Scott Hutchison’s most enduring songwriting, the album that fans would latch onto in their times of need and which would set the course for all of Frightened Rabbit’s music to come.

The last time I saw Scott, it was after a concert in New York in February of last year, during a small tour where Frightened Rabbit were marking the occasion by playing the album in full each show. And that tone of celebration was clear that night. Everyone seemed happy to be revisiting a 10-year-old album. There was talk of the tour, and talk of what was next — a new band in Mastersystem, new Frightened Rabbit music in the works. There was also talk of further Midnight Organ Fight anniversary business, not a reissue but a reimagining on which artists closely associated with Frightened Rabbit would offer their own interpretations of the tracks.

After Scott’s tragic death last May, that project was put on hold for a while. And now that it’s making its way out into the world, it’s inevitably met with a different kind of weight — not a bunch of friends getting together to nod to an album that holds such an intimate place in so many fans’ hearts, but other musicians coming together to pay tribute to Scott and the songs he left behind.

I’m sure it’s different for each fan, friend, or family member of Frightened Rabbit. For me, I haven’t been able to go back and listen to this music for much of the past year. It happens in glancing moments, the ones in which I feel a more pressing need to acknowledge the passing of a friend I’d looked up to in the last couple years of his life. In some ways, that makes Tiny Changes — the name of the compilation and also a recurring phrase now used in tribute to Scott, taken from a central lyric “Head Rolls Off” — even heavier of a listen. To hear Julien Baker’s intense reading of “The Modern Leper,” or Daughter’s spacier rendition of “Poke,” let alone the Twilight Sad’s crushing performance of “Floating In The Forth,” and to think of the context in which they recorded these songs and how the context in which they are being heard has irrevocably shifted … it’s almost more difficult than hearing Scott’s voice itself.

But I don’t think that’s what the remaining members of Frightened Rabbit want us to take away from Tiny Changes. It’s still, after everything, meant as a celebration — something to remind us of how important this album and these songs and all the other work Scott offered up remain to us. To remind us of how different things were 11 years ago now, and everything else Scott gave in the interim. These songs meant a lot to many of us in that time, and they’ll continue doing so.

With Tiny Changes coming out later this week, I spent some time talking with Scott’s brother Grant, who served as drummer in Frightened Rabbit through the years, about the process of putting together this collection, Scott’s involvement and how it changed after his death. Inevitably, we also found our way to all the other lingering questions — how the band has grappled with their own music after losing Scott, what they intend to do with the unfinished music he left behind, and where to go from there.

STEREOGUM: This project was gestating for a while, as a planned 10-year celebration of The Midnight Organ Fight. How did the idea first come around to compile it this way instead of the usual expanded anthology version or something?

GRANT HUTCHISON: It was just an idea of what we would want to hear as fans of another band, you know? Even the way you just described that anthology thing, or that expanded version. Someone mentioned different colored vinyl and we were just like, “Man, there’s already three different colors out there.” How many more can you do? It just seemed kind of easy.

It’s an album that means so much to people and means so much to us as well. It kinda seemed like it’d be a disservice to just put on a couple extra tracks. Also, people put on tracks that didn’t make it onto the record — it’s like, you just fucking pissed on that record by putting them on there. They weren’t good enough the first time around, why would you release it again with these three or four tracks at the end. Same with demos. I don’t really believe demos should be heard. They’re demos for a reason.

So all these other options that were spoken about, and are generally done, we weren’t excited about. That album did a lot for us personally, it did a lot for us as a band, it did a lot for people who heard it 10 years ago and a lot for people since. We wanted to do something more special. We thought, we’ve got a lot of good friends in music. Everyone on [the compilation] has played a part in our personal life and our careers. We’re telling a story of an album, and the best way to do that is to have the people who have shared it with you over the years tell their side almost, you know? Their interpretation of that album, it’s as important. When you release an album, it’s not yours anymore. Once it’s out there, it belongs to everyone else. This was a nice way to hear what the people we toured with, our peers, what it meant to them.

STEREOGUM: That was the next thing I was going to ask about. The fact that the tracklist represents an extended friend group.

HUTCHISON: I guess we’re always quite modest with our expectations. [Laughs] “Who’s going to have time to do this? Aaron Dessner’s not.” But as the idea spread it was like, “Well, why not?” Ben Gibbard, Craig Finn, Right On Dynamite, they were all the bands who were around at that time — and, specifically with that album, were a very big part of it. We always knew it would be this core group of people from all over.

STEREOGUM: When Scott died, did that change the nature of this album? In the process of putting it together, I mean, not in the perception of it now. Last year, this thing was already coming together. Did you have to stop and think about reframing it, getting more people together … kinda ask, “What do we do with this stuff now?”

HUTCHISON: Absolutely. It was a pretty swift decision to put it back on the shelf for a little while. Everything was done. Scott heard every track. There was no reaching out to more people, all the covers were done. I think we all knew, certainly within the band, that we were still going to release it, because it was something Scott was a huge part of organizing, something he was really excited about as well. We knew it was going to happen at some point, but we just needed some personal space. Knowing whether it’s 10 years or 11 years later, it’s not really going to make a big difference.

I guess the one big thing logistically in terms of releasing it is that the artwork wasn’t truly finished. It might sound like a small thing, but that was such a big part of Scott’s input into the band. He wasn’t just the songwriting aspect of Frightened Rabbit, he was the visual — it was all him. When we decided to come back to this, that was the only thing we needed work or discussion on. We worked really closely with this artist Dave Thomas, who’s done a bunch of work for Fat Cat.

We decided not to do too much mock-up stuff, “We’ll make it look like what Scott would’ve made it look like”-type stuff. That was when Dave came in with the idea of just having everyone write something about it. That was talked about before, but that was going to be alongside the artwork, and then we just decided to make that the whole thing. It was something that kept it about the record, kept it about the songs, kept it about people’s relationship to those songs. Which is the whole reason this exists.

STEREOGUM: Daughter’s version of “Poke” totally took me aback. I thought it was really beautiful and creative. Were there particular songs you guys were surprised by, with how someone interpreted it, or even with realizations like, “Wow, we got Biffy to do this?”

HUTCHISON: Those exact things. That version of “Poke” took us all — not by surprise, we knew they’d do a good version, but I think it would’ve been quite easy for them to not stray too far from it. Especially “Poke.” It would be so easy to do the same but just have Elena sing on it. I thought it was really bold for them to go where they did with it. It’s so beautiful. Our version, it’s Scott and a guitar. When we recorded it, we wanted people to feel like they were just sat there with him and have that real personal connection to the song. But [Daughter’s] version, yeah, it’s absolutely beautiful, and we were all taken aback by it.

As you said as well, the fact that Biffy Clyro — I just smile when I listen to that cover. It’s so perfect. We wouldn’t have wanted them to do anything different. We kinda had people coming back and asking what we were after, and we were always like, “We’re asking you because of the music you make. We trust you to do it.” We didn’t give anyone any direction, really. We let people do what they wanted. We listened to every song, in the same way everyone else has now, not knowing what to expect.

I think, also, Julien’s cover — it’s another one that really strikes me. Listening to her voice always gets me in the chest, you know? Hearing her do that, with those lyrics … I haven’t listened to our Midnight Organ Fight in, I don’t know how long. I heard [those songs] every night on tour. Even being sung in a different way — it’s not that it brings new meaning to them, I don’t think it does that. But it gives fresh perspective on it. Especially, some having female voices rather than a male, that gives it another angle. You might see it differently. I think they’re all amazing, but those three, they just kinda hit me.

STEREOGUM: There’s certain Frightened Rabbit songs I haven’t really been able to go back to in the last year.

HUTCHISON: Of course.

STEREOGUM: One of them was “Floating In The Forth,” which I hadn’t listened to until hearing the Twilight Sad’s version here. It’s another that’s slightly reinvented, just the tone of it. It’s really moving what they did with it, especially given their long history and friendship with Frightened Rabbit.

I imagine there’s no one answer to this … to put a project like this out into the world, you want it to be a celebration. But for you and the other members of the band or friends in the music world around you, how difficult has it been to revisit some of this material now?

HUTCHISON: It’s been really, really hard. You can’t get away from the fact that we should be doing this as a group of five and not a group of four. If we were releasing a tribute album, in some ways that might be easier. Because we could sit and talk about the point of doing it as being the legacy and keeping Scott’s memory alive. To bring awareness for what he was going through. But that’s not what this record was meant to be about.

So when this was first spoken about, and even up until the point of Scott’s death, we still wanted it to be a positive thing. But it can never be purely a celebration, even though it was meant to be. We want people to focus on the songs and the album and go back to the original. But those songs … every Frightened Rabbit song has probably changed for fans now. What you said, you’ve not been able to go back to some of them. That’ll be the case for so many people. That means everyone’s perspective on the music has shifted, and there’s no control over that.

That’s the same with this release. Yeah, it’s a celebration of the songwriting and Scott and how amazing of a person and songwriter he was, but that’s not what it was meant to be, you know? He should’ve been sitting on this call with me, or we should’ve been in New York doing this interview with you, together. That’s hard.

There’s a question that’s come up a few times: What is Frightened Rabbit, you know? Whether that’s come up in my own head or whether we’ve been asked directly … it’s a real difficult one to think about. All I know is Frightened Rabbit was Scott. Without him, what is it now? I guess it goes back to that point I made about an album. It’s not within your control anymore, as to how it’s perceived or how people listen to it. Once it’s out there, it’s out there — and I think it’s sort of the same with the band now. It sort of belongs to everyone. In the same way as people over the years have been passing our albums on or telling people about us, we hope for that to continue. For more people doing that. Because we won’t be out on the road to reach people.

I guess it’s brought up that: This thing that was 12 years of my life, and not much less for the rest of the band, what is that now? That’s been the hardest thing to come to terms with. With any other illness, for example, something happens and you sort of figure out how you’re going to go forward. You tie up all the loose ends and carry on with whatever it is you’re going to do. This is just so different from that. It’s a difficult conflict to get your head around.

It was just over a year ago that Scott died. There’s still a lot to go through. Our personal issues on that. But I think this release, it’s given the band a reason to get back together again. Which is something that was quite hard for a while, because it just shone a light on what had happened and the fact that Scott wasn’t there. That’s slowly going away. That’s a weird feeling to have with the people you’re closest to, after all the time you’ve spent together over the last 10 years. It’s not a feeling of not wanting to sit in a room with them, it’s just the pain that was there was too much. But it’s been a positive thing, to bring us back together.

STEREOGUM: Scott had been working on the next album, and there was material that was suitable to use. Is that a whole unfinished album’s worth, or a couple songs?

HUTCHISON: The amount of material is certainly an album’s worth. It’s a mixed bag of instrumental and some with vocals. But, you know, Scott’s lyrics didn’t usually change dramatically before — and I’m including the band in this — before other people heard them. He wasn’t usually one for having rough lyrics, he would tend to work on them on his own to a good standard. It was rare for him to be in the studio when we were properly recording and changing things up. There might been little changes if he felt something didn’t work, but generally the demo vocals would get redone but were usually very, very close to being done in terms of lyrical content.

So we’ve got enough to make an album. Scott had listened to every demo we had and he had compiled three columns of “Yes,” “Maybe,” “No,” in terms of how good he thought they were. We’ve got his assessment of what he thought were workable songs, and we can discard all the “No” ones, and work on some of the “Maybe” ones, or just stick with the ones he thought were definitely worth it.

I think, for me, to not do that, wouldn’t be right. I had this conversation with someone the other day who actually went as far as to say Scott would probably be pissed off if we didn’t get off our asses and finish what he started. Also, these songs will exist long after us on some kind of hard drive somewhere. And if someone finds it and they’re demos and they get released in that form, that doesn’t feel like it would be OK. At least this way, we’ll have control over the release, we’ll work on them to a point where we’re all happy with them and feel like Scott would’ve been happy with them in terms of recording. We’ll never be able to, and we should never try, to emulate what he would’ve done in that respect, but certainly getting them recorded and properly mastered and released professionally is definitely the way to do it, you know? We wouldn’t want to go, “Oh, here’s what we had lying around, we haven’t touched them since Scott died.” That wouldn’t interest me or the band.

STEREOGUM: When the four of you are comfortable enough to revisit and finish that stuff, does that point feel like it’s the final bit of closure for Frightened Rabbit?

HUTCHISON: It does seem like it would give some sort of closure over Frightened Rabbit. People have been asking whether there would be new music, and we’ve said a few times, yes, there will be at some point. When we’re ready. It does feel like to do that would put that question to bed. And get some songs that we all think are good songs out there.

With this covers record, although it wasn’t at the forefront of our minds for most of last year, it feels like a massive relief to finally get it out. That’ll be the same when it comes to going back to the demos. The longer we sit on them and put it off, the harder it might become, the less attached we might feel to it. I think it’ll be a good thing for us to do, so we can musically, professionally, and personally move on from that part of our life.

STEREOGUM: For you, it’s not just the band you formed your identity around as an adult. It’s your brother, it’s this whole entity you guys built together. Maybe this is the kind of thing people never get an answer to, or at least not a year later … right now it’s the covers album, and the demos, and tribute concerts. Further down the line, have you started to figure out what it looks like for you? The balance of keeping Scott’s memory alive, but what comes after that. Do you envision going to another band, or leaving this behind as one chapter of your life?

HUTCHISON: That’s hard. I’ve played a little bit with this artist Gretta Ray, which has been great. It’s been good because it’s not been incredibly busy and there’s not been a lot of commitment required in that. I’m currently working on a cider business that I’m going to set up for myself, to import and sell cider.

I don’t see myself joining another band and starting all over again. I haven’t forgotten how fucking difficult it was at the beginning. That was great. If I was 20 again, I would do it all again. But I’m not. Going and doing that in your mid-30s approaching your 40s, going back to the point of starting a new band … and, yes, there’d be some interest and it wouldn’t be the same as trying to start again. But I think that connection I have to music and to drums was a shared one with Scott. I didn’t do it to the same level with anyone else.

That relationship we had inside and outside of the band was a bit blurred. That’s something I’ve spoken about through counseling, with various people about those blurred lines, and that makes it difficult for me to move on or to find any closure over anything, because our life was so entwined professionally, privately, personally. To work with someone else, I’m not sure how it’d feel. Me playing the drums with someone who’s already written all these songs, you can take a step back from that and that’s why I’ve enjoyed playing with Gretta. But in terms of going to create with someone else and work through that whole process, that seems to me like … it doesn’t appeal to me.

I absolutely loved doing it with Scott. If it wasn’t for him, I wouldn’t have been a professional musician. I don’t think I would’ve been in a band good enough to do what we did together. And there’s an argument to say that he might not have, either, you know? I don’t want to discount my input in Frightened Rabbit. But he would’ve been writing songs for people and I Imagine would’ve made some kind of living out of his art. But for me, he was the reason I was in a successful band. And to start back in and go back through that, it just doesn’t appeal to me that much.

The reason I loved playing the bigger shows that we did was because of all the work we put in to get there. It’s not just that I’m scared of going back to a van when I’m used to a bus. It’s not as simple as that. The story we built over all those years, I’m quite happy with that being that chapter of my life. And I’m lucky that at 35 I’m still young enough and in the position to start something new.

Allowing myself to come to terms with the loss of my brother is something I’ve probably not dealt with as much as I could or should have, or will over the next few years. It’s obviously all been very focused on “Scott, the singer from Frightened Rabbit.” And we’ve had this covers record, and the charity — all the success of that, is because of the band. I think it’s time, now, or once the covers record thing is done, to concentrate on … the person I knew for 34 years of my life. Because that’s not who you see on Instagram or Twitter. That’s something I probably need to start addressing. Not start — I have, I have. But it’s the loss of the band and Scott as Frightened Rabbit that comes up all the time. And it’s getting my head around what else I’ve lost.

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